That was when Marty came up with the idea that we should join forces on Oppenheimer. I told Marty that I liked him too much to do that. Though it still took another five years before the book came out. Bird: Well, when the book came out in 2005, I thought it was terrific, and I was very proud of it. And I remember telling him about eight months after the book came out that I thought it was a candidate for the Pulitzer.

Source: New York Times July 17, 2023 10:10 UTC